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EXCLUSIVE: E-Mail Obtained Via FOIA Request Reveals Sun Belt Expansion Candidates

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If you haven’t already read my previous article, I submitted a FOIA request for conference realignment related documents from both Appalachian State & Georgia Southern. I received Georgia Southern’s documents today.

But after receiving the documents, I got an e-mail from Georgia Southern with additional documents that were not discovered in time to physically mail. There is a time limit associated with responding to a FOIA request in the state of GA, thus why they didn’t wait. Since my FOIA request specified that digital copies were acceptable, they e-mailed these additional documents.

In this e-mail, Georgia Southern’s AD Thomas Kleinlein received a “SBC EADA Fact Sheet” (Sun Belt Conference – Equity in Athletics Data Analysis - Fact Sheet) from Karl Benson the Sun Belt’s Commissioner. It basically compares financial numbers of a bunch of schools.

Kleinlein then forwarded it to someone named Jeff (within the athletics department?) asking for amplifying info on each school. It seems a bunch of the text of the e-mail was withheld by the school, unless Karl Benson’s email really did just say “and the sport expense data” and that’s it.

The fact sheet itself is the real jewel here, because it comes from Karl Benson and lists every Sun Belt school, then has the words “Potential Members” followed by a collection of school names. Note that I have no idea if these schools are SERIOUS candidates, but at the very least, these are schools that being somewhat considered.

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This is the original copy of the attachment: SBC EADA Fact Sheet.PDF

Note that the date of the attachment is only today’s date because it was forwarded to me today from their lawyers. The date of the email was Dec 21, 2012 @ 11:31AM.

The schools it lists are:

Appalachian State
Delaware
Georgia Southern
Idaho
Illinois State
Jacksonville State
James Madison
Lamar
Liberty
Missouri State
New Mexico State
Richmond
Sam Houston State
Towson
UT Chattanooga

 I follow Sun Belt expansion as close as anyone in the game. Most of these are the usual suspects. Some of these are schools, like UT-Chattanooga and Illinois State, I thought only people on message boards were talking about. But apparently the Sun Belt is actually considering them as well. Other schools like Richmond & Towson seemed to come out of left field for me, but make sense in a way.

For those of you that wanted some kind of smoking gun/official invite, I’m sorry. I just requested the FOIA and this is what they gave me. I hope you find it interesting. Check back soon for more documents from my FOIA request.

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CONFERENCE REALIGNMENT: The Basketball Facilities of Potential Sun Belt Candidates

 

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With SDSU’s decision to stay in the MWC, I expect some big conference realignment moves soon. I previously compared the football facilities of potential Sun Belt candidates. That article was so popular I thought we’d continue with the basketball facilities. Let’s get right to it:

Appalachian State – Holmes Convocation Center

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Official Capacity: 8,325
2012 Avg Men’s Attendance: 1,761
Current Men’s RPI: 274
2012 Avg Women’s Attendance: 445
Current Women’s RPI: 119
Notable: 300-meter Mondo track circles the upper concourse and is used by indoor track & field. Complete with “HLES offices, classrooms, state-of-the-art laboratories, team areas and retractable seating for concerts, special events, volleyball and basketball competition and more.”

Bottom Line: Although App State is a football school, our basketball facilities are arguably nicer than our football facilities. What’s with the GIGANTIC A logo in the middle though? Not a fan. I’m also not a big fan of the old school scoreboard. But in general, we have the nicest facilities in the SoCon (except maybe Chattanooga). On the performance end, we have the 2nd worst Men’s team and the 2nd best Women’s team on this list (based on RPI). But I think our men are getting much better. Anyways, no one is adding us for our basketball.
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Georgia Southern – W.S. Hanner Fieldhouse

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Official Capacity: 4,358
2012 Avg Men’s Attendance: 1,918
Current Men’s RPI: 255
2012 Avg Women’s Attendance: 1,249
Current Women’s RPI: 325
Notable: ”During the summer of 1995, the University completed a $500,000 renovation to Hanner Fieldhouse. Wooden bleachers at floor level were replaced with chairback seats, new floor graphics were painted …READ MORE

CONFERENCE REALIGNMENT: The Football Facilities of Potential Sun Belt Candidates

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1/10 UPDATE: Karl Benson did a podcast interview (Click HERE to listen) in which he discusses realignment. In it he says the Sun Belt “has a plan” and that the options make sense geographically and are “like” institutions.

1/17 UPDATE: Added NMSU Stadium planned enhancements.

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The Lafayette-Advertiser put up an ARTICLE today on why the Sun Belt is still considering its options. Check it out, it’s got some interesting quotes from Sun Belt Commissioner Karl Benson.

The candidates named are the usual suspects: Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, New Mexico State, Idaho, Lamar, Liberty, & Jacksonville State. Here is a map of where those schools are located, in comparison to the current membership. The candidates are in Red, try not to laugh at Idaho.


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So how do the schools compare in their readiness for the Sun Belt? Facilities haven’t been the driving force at conference realignment, but it’s a factor nonetheless. In my opinion it might be an eliminating factor for some of the schools:

Appalachian State – Kidd-Brewer Stadium

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Official Capacity: 23,150
2011 Avg Attendance: 26,211
2011 FCS Attendance Rank: #1
Notable Extras: Indoor Practice Facility, Fieldturf “Revolution” artificial surface
Planned Enhancements: Released a mockup of permanent endzone seating, a 3rd upper deck, and a new dorm behind the stadium where the current field house is. No timetable, just a mockup.
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Bottom line: Would be one of the better stadiums in the Sun Belt right off the bat. I have always hated the track though and I could definitely do without the old field house.
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Georgia Southern – Allen E. Paulson Stadium

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Official Capacity:

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CONFERENCE REALIGNMENT: MTSU & FAU Move to C-USA; Opening for App State in the Sun Belt?

Sorry about the crappy quality of these maps, but if I thought they were going to be accurate for longer than a day or two I would put more work into them.

Yes that’s right, C-USA has added Middle Tennessee State University (MTSU) and Florida Atlantic University (FAU), stealing both away from the Sun Belt. This comes just a day after Tulane & ECU left C-USA for the Big East. Sure C-USA could still add App State, but our chances just dropped tremendously in the short term.

ECU joined the Big East in football only and at least one news source says they have found a home for their olympic sports in the CAA. So much for a new SoCon rivalry. So how do we get the hell out of here?

Well there are at least 2 openings for App in the …READ MORE

CONFERENCE REALIGNMENT: Sun Belt Commissioner Talks Expansion, Mentions Georgia Southern

According to an article in the Sun Sentinal, Sun Belt Commissioner Karl Benson talked a little about expansion this past weekend. The last we heard was the Sun Belt had decided NOT to expand to 12 teams.

Benson said that Georgia Southern, along with two other FCS schools, keep Benson updated on their progress in transitioning their programs to FBS play.

The Sun Belt currently has 10 football teams. Benson said that the conference isn’t expecting to discuss expansion at it’s October presidents meeting, but if the Sun Belt were to expand, it would add two teams — as to gain the right to host a conference championship game at the end of the regular season.

Those expansion talks have not been tabled yet, and Benson doesn’t anticipate any action to take place this year.

So I guess the answer has changed from “No” to “Maybe, but if so, not until the end of the season”. Georgia Southern’s President recently said on a radio interview that he didn’t expect any sort of FBS invitation until the season is over.

It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that the other 2 FCS schools he’s referring to are probably Appalachian State and Liberty. Both have been very public about wanting to join FBS. I would like to think Appalachian State is still ahead of Georgia Southern. But with their new stadium expansion and FBS vote, they might be the flavor of the month.

There’s also the thought that Georgia State might block Georgia Southern’s entry and we could end up with an Appalachian State/Liberty scenario. At this point, I don’t care who goes with us as long as we go. Obviously, I’d prefer Georgia Southern. I hope the rivalry between us ends up getting both teams in as a package. Then again, they might stand pat at 10.

VIDEO: WAC Commish Jeff Hurd Talks Future of Conference *UPDATED*

So everyone is talking about these WAC rumors. Well this isn’t a rumor. This is straight from the horse’s mouth. But the ambiguity leads to more rumors.

This video is a Q/A with WAC Commish Jeff Hurd at the WAC Football Media Day. I typed up some of the highlights:

No WAC Football (as a conference) in 2013

“We have gone east coast to west coast looking at options in various degrees of detail. And the bottom line is as we sit here today, I don’t believe personally that FBS football, as a conference, is feasible for 2013. Those avenues have been explored and the bottom line guys is I mean it’s just not there. It’s just not there for 2013…There simply aren’t enough schools available. We would need to have a minimum of 6 to, you have to have 8 FBS level, or 8 institutions that are moving to the FBS level, and there simply isn’t 6 of them available.”

WAC Football in 2014 of 2015? Maybe.

“I don’t know the answer to that. I wouldn’t rule it …READ MORE

CONFERENCE REALIGNMENT: The Dominos That Will Set It Off

Conference realignment is about to explode again. It’s just a matter of how soon and what’s going to set off the explosion. Here are the most likely suspects (in no particular order): …READ MORE